The Rules of Investing
The Rules of Investing is one of Australia’s longest-running business podcasts, providing investors with unparalleled access to the ideas and insights of Australia’s leading fund managers, economists and industry experts. Learn how the industry’s best invest, with the help of Livewire’s James Marlay and Chris Conway. Whether you’re new to investing or a seasoned professional, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every second Friday, available on Livewire Markets, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
Episodes

Thursday Oct 30, 2025
The five-year test: Lev Margolin’s four-step process for finding structural winners
Thursday Oct 30, 2025
Thursday Oct 30, 2025
It’s hard to know what markets will do next week, let alone next year. But what if you could identify companies that will be in a stronger position five years from now?
That’s the approach taken by Lev Margolin, founder of System Capital, a Melbourne-based long/short strategy that’s delivered more than 22% per annum since inception. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, we unpack the four-step framework that guides his process, where he’s finding opportunities in a hot market, and the businesses he believes are quietly building long-term strength.
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Friday Oct 24, 2025
Inside the Soul Patts compounding machine
Friday Oct 24, 2025
Friday Oct 24, 2025
Soul Patts CEO Todd Barlow joins The Rules of Investing to unpack the firm’s merger with Brickworks, why he’s buying at cyclical lows, and how he’s positioning for the future of energy. He also shares why liquidity and humility matter when markets are running hot.
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Friday Oct 17, 2025
Magellan's value picks as sentiment soars
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Markets are on fire and bubble talk is everywhere. So how should investors respond? In this episode, Magellan’s Arvid Streimann breaks down how to keep emotion out of your decisions, where he’s finding genuine value, and why he still believes in the power of brands and discipline.
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Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
Matthew Kidman: The two best times to make money in markets are coming
Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
In this episode of The Rules of Investing, Centennial’s Matthew Kidman shares his playbook for the late stage of a structural bull market. He explains why valuations don’t matter (for now), how he found his first 10-bagger, and the standout management teams on the ASX. Plus, Kidman reveals why he’s still bullish on markets — and what could eventually bring it all undone.

Friday Oct 10, 2025
Warryn Robertson: The secret to owning the world’s best assets
Friday Oct 10, 2025
Friday Oct 10, 2025
Warryn Robertson has spent two decades investing in the assets that keep the world running — from toll roads to transmission lines and satellites. In this episode, he explains the rules for owning the world’s best assets, why getting the definition right matters, and what investors are getting wrong about markets today.
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Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSenseThis latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense.See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.

Thursday Oct 02, 2025
Thursday Oct 02, 2025
Two of Australia’s most respected investment firms share how they are positioning for tomorrow. Learn where they see opportunity and how their strategies are evolving. From private credit to gold, discover where Soul Patts’ Todd Barlow and Regal’s Phil King see the biggest returns.
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Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
From gaming stock to global giant, Nvidia shows how fast the future can arrive. Global stock pickers Josh Cummings, Qiao Ma and Dr David Allen share where they see the next mega caps emerging.
________________This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage.Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]

Tuesday Sep 30, 2025
Tuesday Sep 30, 2025
Banks and miners dominate the ASX, but the opportunity doesn’t end there. At Livewire Live 2025, L1 Capital’s Mark Landau and Allan Gray’s Simon Mawhinney shared their conviction calls beyond these portfolio staples.
This episode is part of our special mini-series of The Rules of Investing, giving you a front-row seat to discussions from Livewire Live 2025, our flagship investor event.Whether you’re after big-picture market insights or actionable investment strategies, this series offers exclusive insights to help shape your investment decisions.We hope you enjoy this special 4-part series. We’ll return to our regular programming with the next episode of The Rules of Investing.________________This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage.Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]



