The Rules of Investing
The Rules of Investing is one of Australia’s longest-running business podcasts, providing investors with unparalleled access to the ideas and insights of Australia’s leading fund managers, economists and industry experts. Learn how the industry’s best invest, with the help of Livewire’s James Marlay and Chris Conway. Whether you’re new to investing or a seasoned professional, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every second Friday, available on Livewire Markets, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
Episodes

Monday Dec 22, 2025
Monday Dec 22, 2025
Vishal Teckchandani asked two of Australia's leading ETF providers to put together a starting lineup of 11 ETFs built to win next year.
Our two team captains were VanEck's Jamie Hannah and Global X ETFs' Marc Jocum, who each brought some of their big hitters (and more cricket metaphors than you can shake a stump at).

Monday Dec 15, 2025
4 property market hotspots and 2 big ideas to fix affordability
Monday Dec 15, 2025
Monday Dec 15, 2025
Property experts Nerida Conisbee and Kiril Ruvinsky unpack what is driving the market and share their bold predictions for 2026.

Friday Dec 12, 2025
Closing out 2025 and dropping a few bonus episodes along the way
Friday Dec 12, 2025
Friday Dec 12, 2025
The Rules of Investing has wrapped for 2025. Thanks for tuning in; we’ve loved bringing you the conversations and insights that shaped markets this year.
We have a few bonus episodes coming out over the next couple of weeks and we’ll return to regular programming in 2026.
Enjoy the holiday break and all the best for the year ahead.

Friday Dec 05, 2025
Friday Dec 05, 2025
The ASX’s headline yield has slipped, but dividend income is still on offer if investors know where to look. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, IML’s Dr Michael O’Neill explains the dividend outlook, shares five ASX income picks, and outlines the mistake investors are making on rates and valuation risk.*Correction - in the podcast Michael mistakenly said the yield on CSL is 4% when it is actually closer to 3% based on 1-year forward estimates from brokers.

Friday Nov 21, 2025
The playbook behind Plato’s 25 percent returns
Friday Nov 21, 2025
Friday Nov 21, 2025
Dr David Allen from Plato Investment Management joins the show to unpack the systematic engine behind his fund’s 25 percent annual returns, how red flags reveal stocks set to fall, and the global themes he believes will drive markets over the next decade.

Friday Nov 07, 2025
Chris Prunty: The 4 small caps heading for ‘Hall of Fame’ status
Friday Nov 07, 2025
Friday Nov 07, 2025
QVG Capital’s Chris Prunty joins the Rules of Investing to unpack what makes the great companies great. He shares the three traits found in Australia’s “Hall of Fame” stocks, reveals four small caps he believes could follow in their footsteps, and explains why QVG is backing Hub24 over Netwealth in the battle of the investment platforms.

Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
The property assets still trading at a discount as investors chase growth
Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
Property moves in cycles, but real value lies in assets you can’t replace. Quay Global Investors’ Chris Bedingfield joins The Rules of Investing to explain why global REITs are trading at some of the biggest discounts in years, how ageing demographics and construction costs are reshaping real estate, and why patience remains the most underrated edge for investors.
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Thursday Oct 30, 2025
The five-year test: Lev Margolin’s four-step process for finding structural winners
Thursday Oct 30, 2025
Thursday Oct 30, 2025
It’s hard to know what markets will do next week, let alone next year. But what if you could identify companies that will be in a stronger position five years from now?
That’s the approach taken by Lev Margolin, founder of System Capital, a Melbourne-based long/short strategy that’s delivered more than 22% per annum since inception. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, we unpack the four-step framework that guides his process, where he’s finding opportunities in a hot market, and the businesses he believes are quietly building long-term strength.
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Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSenseThis latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense.See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.



